Nuclear Sub Officer's Quote of the Month

Background

"The underlying problem is what kind of a woman whose biological clock is ticking really wants to volunteer for submarine duty? " - 9/13/2012 comment by Vigilis @ The Stupid Shall Be Punished

Fast Forward 3 Years

"Sources: Few women choose to stay in submarine force"  (NavyTimes, December 6, 2015)

Quote of the Month 

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"The idea of going back to a fast-attack is exciting, but the other piece of that is just it’s a really demanding job," she said. "So when you want to prioritize your family, you really have to decide if you’re willing to go back to that demanding lifestyle."  -  Lt. Jennifer Carroll, 28 (one of the first women to earn her dolphins in 2012, and now assigned to the Submarine Force integration office in Norfolk)

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We must wish the best of luck to Lt. Jennifer Carroll.  She could have all the more Navy pressure placed upon her to stay in subs. However, since the Navy allowed her NavyTimes interview, we suspects her favorable decision to remain in the program had already been made.  Standby for the eventual update: SECNAV Mabus will have to publicize Lt. Carroll's retention in hopes of influencing more women to stay in the dubious "ticking" program.

While assignment of women to subs must still be considered new, the Navy now has over 30 years of experience assigning woman to surface vessels.  Today's retention rate for nuclear-trained women in surface warfare stands at a mere 14 %. Although the biological clock syndrome is across the board, one must remember that submarine duty is quite a bit more demanding due to its limited crew size and the added duties to be accomplished.

How foolish and costly will such political defiance of human nature finally become?  No one yet knows. What is known, however, is this:

1 - Who discounts the powerful, natural influence of women's biological clocks? Answer: politicians of a certain party that considers men and women wholly equal and interchangeable despite centuries of evidence to the contrary?

2 - Who pressured NAVY admirals [admiral is a highly political rank] to assign women to submarine duty? Answer: The current Washington administration, including SECNAV Mabus. 

3 - Who pressured qualified women to volunteer for submarine assignments? Answer: Those admirals, of course, and their obedient underlings.

4 - Who tries to ignore centuries of biological evidence? Answer:  A few would-be authors, feminists, iconoclasts, and certainly a goodly number of patriots. 

Submarines are always silent and strange. 

 

Submarine Shower Video Oversight

The most intriguing answer relating to questions about the USS Wyoming (Gold) video irregularities is the one insiders have been keeping to themselves. Molten Eagle asked that question here in mid-December:

Who actually distributed a shower video copy to an officer on another sub?
a) an enlisted man
b) the Chief of the Boat
c) one of the women officers (RED FLAG)
d) the Wyoming (G) XO or CO?
e) Nobody (it is part of the Navy cover up) 

And, we thought we had covered every likely possibility. Alas, we we had been mistaken.  How many readers realized that there had been one more possibility?

f) an anonymous crewmember may have asked a girl friend (not his) to forward the video to an officer on the other sub, or not, in order to maintain anonymnity.
(RED FLAG)

The title's pun was intended.  

Rumor has it that at least one NCIS (the popular CBS-TV series) writer has been toying with an episode based on actual USS Wyoming events.  Names, ranks, gender, etc. would be changed. Will there be a 13th season for NCIS?  Don't hold your breath, submariners.


Submarines are always silent and strange.

Journalists in the dark or assist Navy Cover-Up

BACKGROUND
A "shower scandal" is the latest stain on the U.S. Strategic Nuclear Force discipline, brought about by unnecessary integration of women into one of the most highly sensitive and highly disciplined military commands before needed. The press has aided cover-up attempts by Congress, the Air Force and Navy to minimize the potentially dire consequences of degraded discipline in our ballistic missile forces, by never publicly pointing their fingers at the root cause - mixing MEN and WOMEN.  In the latest scandal rather serious impacts of unanswered questions are being minimized for a VITAL reason: VITAL NATIONAL SECURITY. The cartoon below entirely misses the gravity of the scandal, which has also gone unnoticed by most of the public (U.S. only).

 

"Up to a dozen sailors are suspected of viewing secretly recorded videos of their female shipmates undressing in a submarine shower over a period of 10 months, according to a new investigative report obtained by Navy Times. ..." -NavyTimes  

"The scandal has marred the Navy's gender integration effort begun four years ago. ... there may be [sic] separate military consequences for bringing recording equipment onto a submarine or viewing the videos without reporting them."  NavyTimes


ME:  Does anyone assume conducting unofficial filming (videography) aboard Fleet Ballistic Missile subs has not marred the Navy either?

ME:  The scandal reportedly only broke after an officer on another sub was sent a copy of the shower video, and reported the violations within another chain of command. If that sory is actually true,  then the CO, XO and COB of USS Wyoming (G) are probably headed for desk jobs (initially). Talk about assigning women due to a looming shortage of male volunteers is bogus. Integrating women (more and more reluctantly, I might add) will amplify any shortage, and the PC-motivated (DACOWITS) move to assign womenn to subs seems to be backfiring. 

Who actually distributed a shower video copy to an officer on another sub?
a) an enlisted man
b) the Chief of the Boat
c) one of the women officers (RED FLAG)
d) the Wyoming (G) XO or CO?
e) Nobody (it is part of the Navy cover up)

Submarines are always silent and strange.

ANSWERS for Submarine QOTW - 5 DEC 2014

Background information and links for questions are found at original posting here.

 
Submarine Questions of the Week with Answers:

 1. On what submarine is NCIS investigating filming and distribution of women officer(s) undressed or undressing?   ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014): USS Wyoming (SSBN-742 ) home ported in Kings Bay, Georgia. - NavyTimes

2. In what activity were women officer(s) engaged during filming of the alleged video(s)?  ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014): Showering. - NavyTimes
 
3. How many women, at least, may be shown in the alleged video(s).  ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014):  At least three (3) of the six total in Gold crew.  - NavyTimes

4. Who (enlisted pay grade and B/G crew) allegedly made and distributed the video(s)?  ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014): An unidentified 24-year-old male, E-4 formerly in Gold crew. -   WJCL later reported: "Vice Adm. M.J. Connor, commander of the Navy’s submarine force, said in a letter dated Thursday that the alleged perpetrators have been removed from the USS Wyoming while an investigation is conducted." 
 
5. Where was the alleged offender as of last week?  ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014): The second class petty officer accused of filming and distributing the videos is assigned to Trident Training Facility, according to the (Nov 14th) incident report. -NavyTimes

6. When did the situation come to NCIS's attention reportedly?  ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014): Lt. Leslie Hubbell, spokeswoman for Submarine Group 10 in Kings Bay, said,  "The Navy became aware of the alleged criminal activity in November 2014 and promptly began an investigation, which is ongoing," she said in a written statement. -NavyTimes 

7. Where else was one video distributed? ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014): A report was initially filed after an officer "on a different submarine" received the videos, according to the retired supply officer. 

8.  What surface-ship type requirement has already been suggested by a former woman submarine officer? ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014):  "They're not females, they're junior officers on this boat, they're division officers, and you will address them as Ensign So-and-So, and you can tell everybody else on the boat,' " she said." NavyTimes

9. Why have submarines traditionally been exempt from stricter, surface vessel formalities? ANS (as of 3 DEC 2014):  "...submarines require a more relaxed and informal atmosphere than surface ships in order to maintain peak performance."

10. What new measures will be invoked on submarines in the future? (Answers to   be updated if and when made public.)

Submarines are always silent and strange.